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Matt and Liam set up a “meet the podcast guys” booth at the Housing California conference, the state’s largest annual gathering of affordable housing advocates. They award an Avocado of the Fortnight to two leading gubernatorial candidates for evading some basic questions on their housing plans (2:00). Then they chat about California’s rising number of people experiencing homelessness (10:40), why state money to confront the problem has been caught up in the courts (14:50), and the fate of two new funding proposals this legislative session (19:00). Finally, interviews with a trio of homelessness advocates and providers from across the state: Ann English, who works on supportive housing issues in Los Angeles (22:00); Laura Guzman, who had worked for over two decades on homelessness in the Bay Area (33:00); and Stephen Russel, an affordable housing advocate in San Diego.

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